MYSELF: I most certainly did! There were times when I nearly fried! But I was heedful of what Knopwood said. Of course I talked to Knopwood about it, and he was wonderful. He said it was a very great experience, but I was the man, and the greater responsibility was mine. So – nothing that would harm Judy. He also gave me a hint about Jewish girls; said they were brought up to be modest and that her parents, being Viennese, were probably pretty strict. So – no casual Canadian ways, and never get the parents against me.
DR. VON HALLER: Did you have erotic dreams about her?
MYSELF: Not about her. But wild dreams about women I couldn't recognize, and sometimes frightful hags, who ravished me. Netty began to look askew and hint about my pyjamas. And of course she had some awful piece of lore from Deptford to bring out. It seems there had been some woman there when she was a little girl who had always been "at it" and eventually been discovered in a gravel pit, "at it" with a tramp; of course this woman had gone stark, staring mad and had had to be kept in her house, tied up. But I think this tale of lust rebuked was really for Caroline's benefit, because Tiger McGregor was lurking more and more, and Carol was getting silly. I spoke to her about it myself, and she replied with some quotation about showing her the steep and thorny way to heaven, while I was making an ass of myself over Judy Wolff. But I kept my eye on her, just the same.
DR. VON HALLER: Yes? A little more, please.
MYSELF: It's not a part of my life I take pride in. Now and then I would gum-shoe around the house when Tiger was there, just to see that everything was on the level.
DR. VON HALLER: And was it?
MYSELF: No. There was a lot of prolonged kissing, and once I caught them on the sofa, and Carol's skirt was practically over her head, and, Tiger was snorting and puffing, and it was what Netty would call a scene.
DR. VON HALLER: Did you intervene?
MYSELF: No. I didn't quite do that, but I was as mad as hell, and went upstairs and walked around over their heads and then took another peep, and they had straightened up.
DR. VON HALLER: Were you jealous of your sister?
MYSELF: She was just a kid. She oughtn't to have known about that kind of thing. And I couldn't trust Tiger to understand that the greater responsibility was his. And Carol was as hot as a Quebec heater anyhow.
DR. VON HALLER: What did you say to Tiger?
MYSELF: That's where the shame of the thing comes in. I didn't say anything to him. I was pretty strong; I got over all that nonsense about being frail by the time I was twelve; but Tiger was a football tough, and he could have killed me.
DR. VON HALLER: Should you not have been prepared to fight for Father Knopwood's principles?
MYSELF: Knopwood prepared Carol for Confirmation; she knew what his principles were as well as I did. But she laughed at him and referred to him as my "ghostly father". And Tiger had no principles, and still hasn't. He's ended up as a public-relations man in one of Father's companies.
DR. VON HALLER: So what was perfectly all right for you and Judy was not all right for Tiger and Carol?
MYSELF: I loved Judy.
DR. VON HALLER: And you had no sofa-scenes?
MYSELF: Yes – but not often. The Wolffs lived in an apartment, you see, and though it was a big one there was always somebody going or coming.
DR. VON HALLER: In fact, they kept their daughter on a short string?
MYSELF: Yes, but you wouldn't think of it that way. They were such charming people. A kind of person I'd never met before. Dr. Wolff was a surgeon, but you'd never know it from his conversation. Art and music and the theatre were his great interests. And politics. He was the first man I ever met who was interested in politics without being a partisan of some kind. He was even cool about Zionism. He actually had good words for Mackenzie King; he admired King's political astuteness. He weighed the war news as nobody else did, that I knew, and even when the Allies were having setbacks near the end, he was perfectly certain the end was near. He and Professor Schwarz, who was his brother-in-law, had seen things clearly enough to leave Austria in 1932. There was a sophistication in that house that was a continual refreshment to me. Not painted on, you know, but rising from within.
DR. VON HALLER: And they kept their daughter on a short string?
MYSELF: I suppose so. But I was never aware of the string.
DR. VON HALLER: And there were some tempestuous scenes between you?
MYSELF: Whenever it was possible, I suppose.
DR. VON HALLER: To which she consented without being sure that she loved you?
MYSELF: But I loved her. She was being kind to me because I loved her.
DR. VON HALLER: Wasn't Carol being kind to Tiger?
MYSELF: Carol was being kind to herself.
DR. VON HALLER: But Judy wasn't being kind to herself?
MYSELF: You won't persuade me that the two things were the same.