IB You say ‘Berlin appears to be a fox who wishes he were a hedgehog.’ Never have I wished that. Never. Why would you think that? I’m a fox who’s quite content to be a fox. That’s what I say about Tolstoy, that he’s a fox who thought he was a hedgehog; that’s rather different, and that’s what I’m accused of by Perry Anderson, of being a fox who is really a hedgehog, because I have got a large central idea, […] there is something unifying, and that’s quite wrong, but there’s something which I’m being accused of, whatever it is. […] What kind of a hedgehog am I in your view? What is my unitary vision, which I strive after? Not pluralism or liberalism, all these conflicting values and all the rest of it. That’s not an obsessive vision. I don’t reduce everything to that.
MI No, my point about you not being a hedgehog is the obvious one, that I don’t think someone who is a liberal pluralist can be a hedgehog, by definition. […] I meant something different by ‘hedgehog’: I think I meant […] a deep emotional interest in those who have a central vision, and a perplexity, a psychological interest in that kind of achievement.
IB Well, only because I’ve studied it, because Karl Marx was one and Tolstoy was one and so on; but no, I don’t think that’s right. I’ve got no either envy of or obsession by or terrible interest in people with a single vision; on the contrary, I think them very grand, important geniuses, but dangerous. […] I do think they can be geniuses of the first order. People who have a single vision of the universe, like Dante or Tolstoy […] – Tolstoy didn’t, in my opinion, but he wanted to – but there are people with this single view of the world, and they can be marvellous, but don’t tempt me, [n]or [do I] object to [them] terribly […]. I admire them and concede their importance or their genius. […] You must be thinking that I have somewhere a desire to put it all together. […] You might be right, because one doesn’t know oneself, but I’m telling you I never have felt a hedgehog in my life, or any temptation to be one. I’ve admired hedgehogs – Toscanini is a hero of exactly that kind. Akhmatova was a hedgehog. Oh, I’m impressed by them, I’m deeply moved by them, but not with them; and I don’t walk the same earth with them. [It’s a] leitmotif in my work – human desire for certainty is unshakeable, noble, incorrigible, highly dangerous; that’s all right. I don’t know about noble, I’m not sure it is; unshakeable, incorrigible and dangerous, yes; maybe it’s a case of noble noble, a case of ignoble ignoble. I don’t think Karl Marx was very noble: brave rather than dignified and worthy of respect. Noble?
IB Then as a result of learning to dictate in Washington – I’ve always found it very painful to write – I began dictating here [in Oxford], and I found that infinitely easier; and so
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LATER COMMENTARY
[Berlin] discovered that he was a hedgehog with one big central idea only because everyone else was telling him it was there.
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