DK: And what happened during those thirty minutes?
AF: Again, as I’ve said before, we talked about the stalker –
DK: Nothing else?
AF: No –
DK: No small talk
AF: Ms Smith asked after my wife, very briefly, when I arrived. But that wasn’t why I was there.
RG: So what course did the conversation take?
AF: She talked me through what had been happening – specific incidents – dates and times –
DK: She’d kept a record?
AF: Informally, yes. But it was more like a diary. It wasn’t something she was happy to hand over.
RG: For the record, no such diary has been retrieved from Ms Smith’s flat.
AF: Well, it was there that night – it was on the coffee table.
DK: When she went through these dates – did you make notes?
AF: No. When I got out my notebook she got nervous and asked me not to write anything down. She wasn’t ready to make an official complaint.
DK: So we only have your word for it.
AF: As I said, she didn’t want to escalate things –
DK: So as
AF: I can’t speak to that. I only know what she said to me. And as we’ve since discovered, a man called Hugh Cleland had recently had an altercation with her, and could well have taken it further.
RG: Again, for the record, Hugh Cleland’s fingerprints have not been found anywhere in Ms Smith’s flat.
PM: What about his DNA?
RG: Samples have been taken from him. We await the results.
PM: Does he have an alibi for the night in question?
RG: Enquiries are ongoing, that’s all I can say at this stage.
DK: [
So, if Smith thought Cleland might be stalking her, why didn’t she tell her boss? Her colleagues?
AF: She told me she’d never seen the man’s face. She may have been wary of accusing Cleland until she had proof it was definitely him.
DK: What about her family and friends? She could have talked to them.
AF: My
DK: Private or not, I find it odd. Very odd. Especially since, according to her parents, Ms Smith had already had a similar experience some years before.
AF: She said nothing about that to me.
DK: Someone who’d had an experience like that, surely they’d be very unlikely to keep it to themselves if they thought it was happening again.
AF: As I’ve already explained, I’m not in a position to speculate about Ms Smith’s behaviour. She was my wife’s friend. I barely knew her.
DK: You knew her well enough to have a drink with her.
AF: She offered me a glass of wine. It seemed churlish to refuse.
DK: How much did she drink?
AF: In my presence, just over a glass.
DK: The PM suggested she’d had rather more than that.
PM: There’s no way of ascertaining precisely when Ms Smith consumed the alcohol identified at the autopsy. DI Fawley can only comment on what happened in his presence.
DK: So she’d had a bit to drink, she’s upset, so, what? You put an arm round her?
AF: No.
DK: Give her some comfort?
AF: No.
DK: After all, she’s been through a break-up, she’s vulnerable –
AF:
DK: She’s an attractive woman, your wife is pregnant, it’s easy to see how one thing could have led to another –
AF: It didn’t happen. And I deeply resent your reference to my wife –
DK: Perhaps Smith went along with it to start with – perhaps that’s why you thought she was OK with it. Perhaps
AF: [
DK: And now she’s struggling, starting to scream the place down –
AF: No.
DK: You get your hand over her mouth – anything to shut her up –
AF: I did not touch her at any point and she was alive and well when I left.
DK: You didn’t kill her –
AF: No.
DK: You didn’t rape her –
AF: No.
DK: You didn’t even have consensual sex with her –
AF: No. Absolutely not.
RG: [
This is a copy of the forensics report which we received earlier this morning. The lab has isolated a quantity of male DNA in relation to the Smith case. And it’s not Hugh Cleland’s.
PM: But I thought you said you were still waiting for his DNA results?
RG: We’re awaiting
AF: I was at the flat. Of course my DNA is there.
RG: I’m not talking about what they found at the flat. I’m talking about what they found on the body.
AF:
RG: It’s very simple. Your DNA was found on Emma Smith’s body. Perhaps you could explain that for us.
AF: It must be a mistake.
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The only thing I can think of is that there was some sort of accidental contact – perhaps our hands touched when she gave me the wine.
RG: You’re saying that’s what happened?